Modified Register for Jiles Bryant (Pap) Carpenter

                                                 First Generation  
                 Submitted By: John Wayne Hickman at: New E-mail Address as of Jan. 2007.
                                    graygo1945@txwifi.com

                

      1. Jiles Bryant (Pap) Carpenter  was born on 22 Feb 1853 in Alabama. He died on 26 Oct 1929 in McKenzie, Bulter, Alabama, USA. He was buried on 26 Oct 1929 in Elizabeth, Primitive Bapt., McKenzie, Alabama.             Ref, Christine Eugenia Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson

Jiles married Charity (Mammy) Bracken  daughter of Mathias Bracken and Delilah Grimes on 31 Oct 1875 in Alabama. Charity was born on 30 May 1849. She died on 1 Jul 1923 in McKenzie, Butler, Ala.
 She was buried in Elizabeth, Primitive Bapt., McKenzie, Alabama.

Ref, Christine Lee Ross, !Ref, Debra Maddox Wilson, Cheryll Sumner News Paper obit:
Charity's parents were Mathias Bracken and Delilah Grimes.

 
Her Obituary
        Mrs.  Charity Carpenter of McKenzie, died
at a local infirmary, Sunday morning, July 1st, age 74.  She is survived by her husband,
Mr. Jiles Carpenter and several children as follows:  Mr. John Carpenter, Mr. Elias Carpenter
of Georgiana, Mr. Willie Carpenter of Laurel, Miss., Mr. Jim Carpenter of McKenzie
Mrs. Joe McKenzie, Mrs. Scott Cabiness, Mrs. G. B. Lee of McKenzie.
Mrs. Carpenter was by nature, bright and sunny, and had many warm friends who regret her
death very deeply.  She was a member of the Primitive Baptist church, and found many ways to serve her Master.
H
er sweet face will be missed at Elizabeth church and at other places.  Many hearts go out in sympathy
to the bereaved husband and other relatives in this sorrow.

   Jiles and Charity had the following children
     2 M        i.  John R. Carpenter  was born on 11 May 1874 in Butler Co, AL. He died in 1940.
                          Ref, Christine Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson:   John R. married Ida Payne.

     3 F         ii.  Amnitious Iola (Babe) Carpenter  was born on 2 Jul 1875. She died on 16 Nov 1954.

                    4 F        iii.  Irene Ophelia Carpenter  was born on 21 Aug 1877 in Butler Co, AL.
                                            Ref, Christine Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson:  Irene married a Scott Cabiness.

                    5 M       iv.  Elias Dozier Carpenter  was born on 16 Jul 1878 in Butler Co, AL.
                                       He died on 27 Jan 1957 in Georgianna, Butler Co, AL.
                                           Ref, Christine Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson:  Elias married a Kate McKenzie.

               6 F        v.  Eldora Elefore Carpenter  was born on 17 Apr 1880 in Butler Co, AL.
                                          Ref, Christine Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson: Eldora married Joe McKenzi

               7 M       vi.  William Ben Carpenter  was born on 13 Apr 1883 in Butler Co, AL.
                                        Ref, Christine Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson:  William 1st to Myrtte Music and 2nd to Johnette Arrington.

               8 M      vii.  James Wesley Carpenter  was born on 28 Apr 1884 in Geneva Co, AL. He died in Aug 1949 in Panama City, Bay Co., FL.
Ref, Christine Lee Ross, Debra Maddox Wilson: James 1st marriage to Dixie Burch and 2nd unknown.

               9 F      viii.  Jerushia May Carpenter  was born on 8 May 1888 in Butler Co, AL.
Ref, Debra Maddox Wilson, Christine Lee Ross:    She married her sister husband Scott Cabiness.

 Second Generation

 

      3. Amnitious Iola (Babe) Carpenter  (Jiles Bryant (Pap)) was born on 2 Jul 1875. She died on 16 Nov 1954 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She was buried on 19 Nov 1954 in Elizabeth, Primitive Bapt., McKenzie, Alabama.

Ref, Melissa WcWhorter Parker, Christine Lee Ross: Iola's parents were Jiles B. Carpenter, born 23 Feb,1853
and Charity Bracken, Born 3 May 1849.  Jiles's parents were William Carpenter and Savannah Donaldson.
Charitys' parents were Mathias Bracken and Delilia Grimes
. Delilia's parents  were William
and Lydia Grimes.
L
ola's Nickname was Babe.

Amnitious married Gipson Boyt (Gip) Lee  son of George Washington Sr. Lee and Rhodia Anne Elizabeth Mitchell on 23 Dec 1892 in Defuniak Springs, Walton County, Florida, USA. Gipson was born on 4 Dec 1869 in Westover, Covington, Alabama, USA. He died on 6 Nov 1962 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. He was buried on 9 Nov 1962 in Elizabeth, Primitive Bapt., McKenzie, Alabama.

 

Ref, Thermyl Juanita Lee, Web E Lee, Candy Stacks, Sandra Johnson Taylor; Gipson Boyt Lee, known

as Gip, was born in Red Level, Alabama to George Washington Lee Sr. and his wife Rhodia Anne

Elizabeth Mitchell Lee.   He lived most of his life in McKenzie, Alabama and worked in the early years as

a lumber man and then a farmer.  He was a member of the McKenzie City Council in 1936 and known as

a oral historian.   He was noted for his good memory and clear thinking at an age when most citizens

tend to forget and gave many accounts of the old McKenzie before his death at age 94.  His wife

Amnitious Iola Carpenter, known as Babe, was the daughter of Jiles B. (Pap) Carpenter and Charity

(Mammy) Bracken.  Aunt Christine Ross said in a letter to me in August 1995 that Gipson and Amnitious

slip away from church at Bethel to get married. Uncle Dosh and Newt Hester went with them to Walton

County, Florida to be married in 1892.  Uncle Dosh and Newt Hester rode mules and Papa and Mama

were in a buggy.  As they were going through the piney woods they came to a house were some children

were playing.  Uncle Dosh asked them if they had any corn meal.  The children ran to the back and

asked the mother, when they returned and remarked yes,  Uncle Dosh told them its is a good thing to

have..

  I asked  Aunt Christine again in January, 1996 about the trip to Florida and Uncle Dosh's statement. 

She told me that  Mama had relatives down there on both sides and her father may have objected, but

she never heard.   She also said that as a small  child, Amnitious would go down to visit them by ox and

wagon, and had told the story of how she would get tire of sitting and would get out and walk.  As to

Uncle Dosh's statement, she stated that Uncle Dosh was a very humorous fellow, joked a lot,  even

when he was troubled he would sang, and he had plenty of trouble.  Aunt Nancy fussed most of the time

and he had two boys that drank.  Granddaddy Lee worked as a logger when he was young. They sawed

logs and  rode them down the rivers to Mobile, then walked back for another run.  The men would sleep

in the woods lots of times, blacks as well as whites. Granddaddy Lee said some nights it got so cold he

would have to cover up his head to keep warm.

 

In Webb E. Lee's book he reports the following from a Mobile Newspaper Article called the Climbing the

Family Tree from someone named P. H. O. in Saraland.  They write that in the census of 1850, there is a

Caroline Gipson, age 6 living in the household of Greenberry Lee, who is married to Martha.  Just down

the road there is a Celia Gipson, age 12, living with the South's.  We know they had a brother John (my

great-grandfather), who was approximately age 10 at that time. In the 1840 Census there was a

Margaret Gibson born 1815-1820 living next door to Greenberry, who we believe to be the mother of

John, Celea and Caroline.  There is definitely a close relationship between the Gibsons and Lees as

Greenberry's son George W. was referred to by the Gipsons' as "Uncle George Lee" and George even

named one of his sons Gipson Boyt Lee (Gip).
 

In December, 1997, Candience Hitson Stacks (Candy), email me with the following information.  The P.
H. O. from Saraland in the Mobile Newspaper Article is Candy's second cousin from her Dad's (Ray
Vernon Hitson) side and their research says that Margaret Gipson or Gibson came to Alabama with
Greenberry Lee and his wife. The story goes that Margaret was a mistress of Greenberry's and lived in a
small house on his property.  She had three kids, a son named John (her Line) and two daughters. It is
unknown by them if these children were actually Gibson children or Greenberry's.  If they were Gibson
children, no one knows who there father was.  It is possible, though, that the father may have also been
named John, because there appears to be several John's in a line.

 

Sandra Johnson Taylor, a Lee researcher, writes, the Gibsons of Covington County and Butler County  
are from Williamsburg Dist. S.C and Maryland.  One of the better stories in our Lee ancestry is that  
Greenberry Lee b1799 had a mistress whose last name was Gibson.  By here he had twins.  Sometime  
around the civil war, she (helped by Greenberry's wife) fled to Louisiana where she had relatives. 
Sandra's research has convinced her that the Gibson lady was a cousin.

My Mother, also referred to the Gibson's children connected to the Lee's "as those children from the
other side of the blanket".
 

10-31-1912 __GIP B. LEE MAKES CORN RECORD__Produces Over 100 Bushels On Acre at a Cost of
About 35c Per Bushel.  Gip LEE, on his farm near McKenzie, made a corn record for his section in the
corn contest this season. He produced 102 bushels, 3 pecks and 6 pounds of corn on his acre at a cost
of between 34 and 35c per bushel put in the crib. Mr. LEE informed us that the yield from this acre cost
him less per bushel than did his general crop which he cultivated with the usual methods employed,
demonstrating a fact of vital importance to the farmers, that not the quantity of land, but the increased
yield on a reduced acreage with intensified cultivation, decreases the cost.
 
 

     Gipson and Amnitious had the following children:

             10 F         i.  Ollie Mae Lee  was born on 5 Jan 1894 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA.
She died on 7 Jan 1978 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She was buried on 10 Jan 1978 in
New Home Church, McKenzie, Alabama, USA.
      Ref, Christine Lee Ross: Married Horace Wilton Sanford
Ollie married Horace Wilton Sanford.          Ref, Christine Lee Ross:

             11 F         ii.  Alva Iola Lee  was born on 14 Feb 1896 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She died
on 31 May 1976.
          Ref, Christine Lee Ross:  1st marriage to Edd Shell and 2nd to Alferd Latner
 
Alva married Ed Shell . Ref, Christine Lee Ross:

             12 F        iii.  Annie Blanche Lee  was born on 22 Jun 1898 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She died on 30 Mar 1980 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She was buried on 2 Apr 1980 in Elizabeth, Primitive Bapt., McKenzie, Alabama. Ref, Christine Lee Ross:  Never Married

             13 F        iv.  Myrtle Recie Lee  was born on 21 Jun 1900 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She died on 16 Feb 1988 in Nursing Home, Pensacola, Florida, USA. She was buried on 19 Feb 1988 in Magnolia, Cemetery, Greenville, Alabama.

Ref, Christine Lee Ross:  Married Lee Andrew Duke.  Aunt Recie was a school teacher
in Bulter County for many years before moving to Pensacola to live.
 

Myrtle married Lee Andrew Duke  on 3 Nov 1921. Lee was born on 5 Nov 1896. He died on 16 May 1942.         Ref, Christine Lee Ross:

             14 F        v.  Alma Odessa Lee  was born on 20 Jun 1903 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She died on 10 Sep 1980 in Greenville, Bulter, Alabama, USA. She was buried on 13 Sep 1980 in McKenzie, Bulter, Alabama, USA.

                           Ref, Christine Lee Ross:  Married Cecil McKinley Hayes on 2 Jan 1933.  Cecil McKinley Hayes
was born 2 Dec 1901 and died 24 May 1965.  Cecil Hayes parents were Bama Ophelia Ledlow
born 30 Nov 1876 and Died 6 Aug 1966 and Marion F.  Hayes born 4 Oct 1897.


  Alma married Cecil Mckinley Hayes  on 2 Jan 1922. Cecil was born on 2 Dec 1901.
He died on 24 May 1965.

Ref, Christine Lee Ross:  Cecil Hayes parents were Bama Ophelia Ledlow, born 30
Nov 1876 and died 6 Aug 1966 and Marion F. Hayes born 4 Oct 1897.
 
 

             15 M       vi.  Clifford Morris (Buddy) Lee  was born on 17 Dec 1906 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. He died on 8 Feb 1958 in Pensacola, , Florida, USA.
Ref, Christine Lee Ross:  Married Isaphine Williams from Industry Comm., Bulter County, Alabama

  Clifford married Isaphine William .         Ref, Christine Lee Ross:

             16 F       vii.  Christine Eugenia Lee  was born on 7 Oct 1909 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She died on 28 Jan 1997 in Atlanta, Georgia. She was buried on 31 Jan 1997 in Elizabeth Cem., McKenzie, Alabama, USA.

Ref, Personal Knowledge and Aunt Christine:  Married Gary Lamar Ross born 15 Oct 1903,
who passed away 2 Nov 1959.

Christine married Gary Lamar Ross . Gary was born on 15 Oct 1903. He died in Sep 1959.
         Ref, Christine Lee Ross:

             17 F      viii.  Thermyl Juanita Lee  was born on 2 Apr 1914 in McKenzie, Butler, Alabama, USA. She died on 9 Jun 1995 in Greenville, Butler, Alabama, USA. She was buried on 12 Jun 1995 in Central Church, Butler, Greenville, Alabama.
 

Ref, Information from Thermyl Hickman as told to Cheryl and Wayne Hickman: 
She
was born at home in McKenzie, Alabama.  She went to College at Livingston, Alabama  
and Troy State, in Troy, Alabama.  She was a teacher at both School and life. When I  
was in grade school at Central, she was at one time, the Principal, the teacher of the  
first through third grades and the school book keeping. Mother was my School  
Principal at Central, but never my school teacher.

How Thermyl (Mother) met Eual Victor Hickman as told to Cheryl and Wayne Hickman.

I was teaching school at Central School and boarding down at Mrs. Ruby Pryor's.
 Eual worked on a road crew for Butler County, as a cook.  They would be out for a
week at a time, so a camp was sat up for the work crew to have a place to eat and
sleep.  They would stay out during the week and come home on Friday for the
weekend.  Saturday mornings, there was no one at Mrs. Ruby's house, so I would go
up to Samuel and Minnie Hickman's house to visit with their daughters Opal and
Lessie.  This was where I met Eual for the first time.  As our relationship developed,
Eual would come home more often on weekends.  When the girls would walk down to
Oscar Burts on the weekends to get vegetables Eual would want to go along and we
would walk and talk.  Merle was courting Regger at that time, and one day when they
were going to the picture show, Merle told Eual "Why don't you ask Thermyl to go.
"  He did and all Eual wanted to do was talk about his girl friends.  They had a party at Mama
and Papa Hickman's and Eual comes home instead of seeing the Jackson girl.  She
later wrote him a letter saying if you want to go with that Miss Lee then you can just do
it.  He borrowed Merle's car and drove me home to McKenzie for Christmas in 1933. 

He came back and picked me up after Christmas.  We courted mostly at Mama
Hickman's house after I returned.  I moved up from Mrs. Ruby's to board at Mama
Hickman's.  The school closed for the year in March, that year, when the money ran
out and I went back to Livingston's for a Semester.  Eual rode the bus to Montgomery
just to ride back with me.  The next year I taught at Sims School House and boarded
with Fred and Pearly Knight.  Eual was surveying for the county at that time building
terraces as part of soil conservation.

We set the date to marry and my folks didn't even know.  We got married at the
parsonage at the First Baptist Church in Greenville on December 22, 1934.  We moved
in with Papa Hickman and I rode the school bus to Mt. Olive Church and walk two or
three miles to the Sims School House.  Eual was still surveying at this time.

When the house was finish, we moved in.  There was no ceiling at that time. Eual
would go with James Wesley McClure all over the country buying hogs and Tennessee
Walking Horses.  We sold a calf to start the ceiling in the bedroom. Eual farmed a little,
had hogs, registered Durocs, didn't make any money.

Eual went to work for Butler Manufacturing Company and made friends with a
Machinist named Draper from up North.  They would go fishing together.  Draper
taught Eual to be a Machinists.  When Butler Manufacturing moved down to Flomation,
Alabama Eual would go down on Monday and come back on Friday.  He stayed with
the Knowles Family while down there.  While working at Butler Manufacturing, he
made a pocket maker to fold the pocket automatically when sewing the pocket on the
shirt.  He never received any thing for his invention and it showed up on the next
Singer Model made.  When Butler Manufacturing would set out to get a new contract
for shirts, Eual would do the production model.

When Littles Manufacturing Company opened in Greenville Eual went to work for them
and worked there until he died in 1954.
 

Note:  I asked Mother to give me more information on the story about building the
house.   I wanted to know about Mama Hickman and Mother washing the black off the
boards.  Who was the man that helped built the house? 
 
(Mother never got around to giving me the information).

  Thermyl married Eual Victor Hickman  son of Samuel Aaron Jr. Hickman
 and Minnie Ann Sims on 22 Dec 1934 in First Baptist, Pastorium, Greenville,
Alabama. Eual was born on 22 Jan 1912 in Greenville, Butler, Alabama, USA.
He died on 21 Nov 1954 in Greenville, Butler, Alabama, USA. He was buried
on 21 Nov 1954 in Central Baptist, Church, Greenville, Alabama.

 Ref, Hickman/Halso book and Personal knowledge of my Father: He worked as
Maintenance Superintendent for Little Manufacturing Co.  He was a musician and
possessed an excellent voice.  He sang bass with the Greenville Singers.  He worked
on a road crew, in his early years as a cook.  He worked for awhile with the county
surveying, to build terraces as a part of the soil conservation effort.  He worked with
James Wesley McClure for awhile traveling around to county sales buying hogs and
Tennessee Walking Horses.  Mother stated they raised and sold a calf to put a ceiling
in the bedroom of their house.  Mother told me one time that; "Eual farmed a little, had
hogs, registered Durocs, and didn't make any Money." He went to work for Butler
Manufacturing Company and made friends with a Machinist named Draper from up
North.  Draper was the one that taught Dad the trade of machinists.   Draper and Dad
loved to fish and they went allot, I can ever remember an early morning trip.  I'm sure it
was around 4:30 am and we where at the pond behind the house getting bait.  While
working at Butler Dad made most of the production samples when the company would
receive a new shirt contract.  He invented a pocket maker, as an attachment, for the
Singer Sewing machines that would fold the pocket automatically when sewing it on
the shirt. He never received anything for his invention, but it was on the next new
Singer Model that they received at Butler.   When Littles Manufacturing Company
opened in Greenville He went to work for them and worked there until he died in 1954.
He died on a Sunday in a Greenville Hospital from a Heart attack.

Submitted by John  Wayne Hickman     graygo1945@txwifi.com
Please E-mail me with any information you may have.   


                                               
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